WHICH PART DOESNT SHE UNDERSTAND! Rachel rejected Jons distinction. Which part of The Comedy Channel doesnt she understand? // link // print // previous // next //
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 2010
Friedman tells the truth, several decades later: On the one hand, Thomas Friedman is right-as-rain in this mornings column. He bashes Michelle Bachmann for her recent, disgraceful flight from the truthfor a blatant lie she helped spread around the world. And he even names the names of others who pushed the blatant lie around.
We recommend that you read his whole column. But this is where Bachman comes in:
Friedman describes the way Cooper corrected Bachmanns howler on his program the next night. In the process, Friedman even names the names of other big players who pushed the obvious lie all aroundwho blatantly lied to the public:
On the one hand, Friedman debunks this obvious lie in some detail. On the other hand, here we go again! Friedman completely fails to place this episode in its larger context. Quite correctly, he complains about this gruesome conduct. But as he closes his column, he makes it sound like this might be something new:
Everything Friedman says is correct. But a person might think, from that passage, that this sort of carnival barking is fairly new. In fact, our discourse has turned on fabrications and crazy lies for several decades now. During much of that period, people like Friedman huffed their way around the world, politely refusing to notice the way our discourse was being destroyed.
Was Bill Clinton a serial murderer? Actually no, he was not. But Jerry Falwell was allowed to make money saying so, and to do Meet the Press.
Did Al Gore say he invented the Internet? Actually no, he didnt. But a string of such claims came from Rich and Dowd, right at Friedmans own paper. Friedman only speaks up today, now that the crazy lies come from people he dislikes on a cultural basis.
Even now, Friedman fails to see the full picture in this latest lie. The scribe does well in naming key namesBachmann, Limbaugh, Beck and Savage. But he fails to see the broader pattern into which this latest lie fits. Rather plainly, the crazy lie about Obamas expensive trip to India echoed this summers earlier crazy lie about his wifes expensive trip to Spain. Both stories echoed the earlier tales about Nancy Pelosis expensive plane rides; all these stories advanced a decades-old narrative about big-spending, feckless Dems. And although Friedman names three major talkers, he doesnt name the gang of clowns who tip-toed around this story on the October 22 Special Report. On that program, Krauthammer, Stoddard and Barnes danced around this latest crazy lie. All three seemed to say or imply that the report was wrong in some way. But none of the three was especially clearand none of the three would tell Fox viewers this was just the latest group lie, the kind of lie that gets spread all around to disinform the rubes.
They knew it. But none of them said.
Our discourse has worked this way for decadesbut liberals and mainstreamers dont seem to know it, or they dont want to tell. Recently, Will Bunch suggested that this breakdown started in 2003. More recently, Steve Benen linked to Andrew Sullivan, who seemed to suggest that it started last year! This morning, Friedman directly attacks the problem, but he too seems to suggest this is new. And just look at the quote he offers from Cooper: No one really seemed to care to check the facts.
That quotes implies what is blatantly falsethat this sort of crazy lire happens by accident or by mistake, when in fact, as everyone knows, these lies emerge by design.
In this column, Friedman starts to do a very good thing; he starts to tell the nations rubes that they get disinformed, in systematic ways, by some very dishonest players. The public needs to be told about this, but they need to be told in full. And one more thing: They cant be told by the kinds of Born Losers who call them racists and tea-baggers first.
These lies get debunked on Countdown each night, along with other lies which are sometimes true. But the hosts repellent, bombastic style insures that no one outside the One True Tribe will hear.
PART TWOWHICH PART DOESNT SHE UNDERSTAND (permalink): What exactly was in dispute when Stewart met Rachel Maddow last week? Watching the full 49-minute tape, its often quite hard to say.
Stewart rather clearly implied that MSNBC is a bit too tribal; every now and then, he said, he looks over and thinks that The One True Channel is behaving a bit like Fox (see THE DAILY HOWLER, 11/16/10). More directly, he chastised Maddow for insulting tea-baggers in such extreme ways in the spring of 2009 (more below).
Stewart also expressed some fairly murky ideas about the main conflict in our society, which he said isnt red versus blue. And sometimes, he dipped into the metaphor bag, producing cloudy weather. We still cant say that we understand the metaphor employed here:
The analysts gagged whenever Stewart pandered, telling Maddow how much he loves her. Rather plainly, Maddowism has been designed to evoke such ceaseless fawning; a stronger man would have refused. But what did Stewart mean about the weather v. climate thing, to which he returned at a later point?
The analysts love Stewarts voice! But frankly, theyre still not sure.
To our ear, Stewart was way too politewas way too avuncularin his critiques of his host. That said, there was one distinction he kept trying to drawthe distinction between news and comedy. From the third and fifth minutes on, Stewart kept trying to draw the difference between satirethe tradition within which he worksand actual news, where Maddow is found. In the seventh minute of the unexpurgated session, he said the following in response to a question (to watch the full session, click here):
Again and again, Stewart returned to a basic idea: As a satirist, his role and his responsibilities differ from those belonging to Maddow. Maddow never bought this claim; she kept insisting that she and Stewart are playing the same basic game. Later, Stewart tried again, after noting that he and his show are parodying a news organization:
At various times, Stewart tried to draw a distinctiona distinction that fell on deaf ears. Stewart said hes part of a long tradition, a tradition including the Smothers Brothers. He also named Chaplin at one point; he could have named many others, including the Fool in Lear. In his polite, avuncular way, he kept suggesting that Maddow is playing a different game, a game that comes from a different traditiona game he said is better, and more significant, than the game he plays. But Maddow kept rejecting the proffered distinction. In this exchange, she sadly explained the way she is now perceived:
Poor Rachel! People compare her to Stewart, and think she isnt as funny as he is! But throughout the session, Maddow kept rejecting Stewarts suggestion that he was working within an established tradition, while she might be wandering over some lines. Indeed, this is the way she introduced the interview on her November 11 program:
Good God, this person is clueless! Some fault must go to Stewart, for being so vaguefor trying so hard not to hurt Maddows feelings. But people, which part of The Comedy Channel doesnt Maddow understand? Because of his courteous vagueness, were not entirely sure what Stewart meant as he repeatedly turned to this theme. But he seemed to be saying that Maddow is stepping over the lines of news traditions with her endless mugging and clowning, and that she may be endangering the more serious role she can play in the news game when she does such things.
Im a comedianbut youre in news! Stewart kept suggesting this basic distinctionbut Maddow kept rejecting it. And her rejection is intriguing, because this is right where Maddow fled when Stewart told her, in his most direct criticism, that she had gone way over the line when she lodged those repellent, relentless attacks against the nations tea-baggers. Note the way Maddow defends her conduct when Stewart raises this point. In the broad sense, this was offered as part of Stewarts claim that both sides, right and left, have ways of overly demonizing the other:
Maddows two weeks of tea-bagger dick jokes was one of the most repellent things weve ever seen on TV. Making it even more repellent was the way Maddow kept lying to her own audience, using those guests (Ana Marie Cox) as a beard. Night after night, Maddow insisted that she was embarrassed by Coxs endless dick jokes, even as she kept inviting Cox back to tell them again the next night. This was Vintage Maddowism: Maddow played the game two waysaiming nasty insults at millions of people, even as she insisted that she herself was much too pure to do any such thing.
Comedy includes an insult tradition, but people like Stewart would perhaps understand how repellent Maddows conduct was, aimed at average people who werent in the room with a chance to fight back. (By the way: Insult comedians state their insults in their own voice.) Well guess that he also understood a simple fact, a fact an elitist like Maddow wouldnt grasp (or possibly care about): As of April 2009, the vast majority of Americans had no idea that the term tea bag had a sexual connotation. As Maddow kept mocking those dumb, stupid rubes, she was trashing the bulk of American votersthe very people who just kicked her ass in the past election.
By far, this was the most direct criticism Stewart directed at Maddow. But note the way Maddow responded. She suggested that her conduct was simply a matter of joking, a joke she may have taken too far.
She only did it because it was funny! Didnt Stewart think it was funny too?
As Maddow responded to Stewart, there was no sense that this two-week string of dick jokes had been meant as an insultas a way of trashing the other side, in the way Stewart had described. People! Maddow doesnt do such things! Shes much too perfect, too pure!
Strikingly, Stewart overstated his criticism here; Maddow really didnt run with it for months, although she came back with the John Waters reference eight months after the two-week episode in question. (Her utterly ludicrous point: The tea-baggers should have understood the term, since it was in a film by Waters!) But in this exchange, we see Maddow refusing, once again, to accept Stewarts proffered distinction between two traditionssatire versus news. And we see the deepest part of Maddowisms unfortunate soul: The belief that Maddow gets to do whatever she wants on the TV machine thingy, tradition or common sense to the side. The notion that TV exists so Rachel Maddow can let the whole world adore her.
Rachel Maddow was only joking when she kept insulting those people! Rush Limbaugh does the same thing when he oversteps; he quickly falls back on the bad-faith defense that hes just an entertainer. To this day, Maddow cant bring herself to say that she behaved badlyshowed significant bad judgmentin that two-week tea-bagger episode. More significantly, she cant understand what Stewart seems to be saying about the varied roles she assigns herself on her self-adoring program: She rejects the idea that she may be forfeiting her influence as a news person when she insists that, traditions be damned, she can just clown and mug too.
In our view, Stewart should have been more clear in his critiques of Maddow. We agree with what he seemed to be saying; we think Maddow is erring badly in the self-adoring way she blurs those traditional lines. (We find it repellent to watch the way she clowns about the news, which does involve the life-and-death interests of the worlds many people.) In part for that reason, we think Maddow and Maddowism are a creeping disaster for progressive interests. If Karl Rove had been allowed to invent the progressive TV host, Rachel Maddow is the creature Karl Rove would have conceived.
In our view, Stewart should have been more clear in his critiques. But one thing was clear from the things Maddow said: Maddow always tells the truthand her motives are always quite pure.
Tomorrowpart 3: Rachel Maddow isnt tribalor so Maddow says